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to hear from somebody who says a deal on the fiscal cliff could have already been reached if only lawmakers took a page out of wall street's deal making strategy of keeping things behind closed doors. where have we heard that before? >>> plus, secretary tim geithner with us exclusively. will the white house let our economy go over the fiscal cliff if a deal on higher tax rates for the wealthy is not reached? we're checking it out. back in a moment. [ male announcer ] research suggests cell health plays a key role throughout our lives. one a day men's 50+ is a complete multivitamin designed for men's health concerns as we age. it has 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day men's 50+. it's easy to follow the progress you're making toward all your financial goals. a quick glance, and you can see if you're on track. when the conversation turns to knowing where you stand, turn to us. wells fargo advisors. >>> welcome back. this very public negotiation on the fiscal cliff still does not seem to be closing in on a deal. the white house out in campaign style events regularly, mak
fiscal cliff, and hopes that we might get a possible deal to bridge the fiscal cliff in washington. but through the period these ten growth stocks have held up surprisingly well. i say surprising, because these stocks all had huge gains going into the fourth quarter. and with the fiscal cliff looming, many investors have been selling their biggest winners to take advantage of the current low capital gains tax rates that will likely go away come january. if we get a positive resolution caught to the fiscal cliff, you'll want to buy these stocks hand over fist. because then they'll really be able to roar. how have the anointed names done? >> amazon started at 259, pulled back to 220 before rebounding to 250, where it is right now. google has been pounded. it went from over 760 to below 660, but it's rebounded to 695. mastercard and visa, they took 25-point dives. i told to you buy them into weakness. falling from 475 to 450, and rallied to 487. these are great ones to buy now. a dozen points where above where i recommended. that's a win. visa has moved up nicely from 136 to 149. ulta
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. >>> 31 days left for lawmakers to reach a fiscal cliff deal. cnbc is heading to the home states of key congressional leaders involved in negotiations. today john harwooden in kentucky. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell's home state to find out how the fiscal cliff is impacting constituents there. >> reporter: in the senate, the challenges is bringing together red states and blue states. mitch mcconnell's kentucky is horse country. of the states represented by top congressional leaders, it's the reddest of all. >> among the top leaders of congress involved in fiscal cliff negotiations, the one facing the most home state pressure may be senate republican leader mitch mcconnell. he faces re-election in kentucky, a state where the tea party movement is alive and well. president obama may have won this election but two years ago leaders of the tea party movement elected ron paul's son rand as kentucky senator over an establishment republican. one leader of that movement who runs a high-end audio equipment business says they could do the same thing in 2014, and this time take out mitc
york says there is progress being made behind the scenes for a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. publicly the two sides still sounded miles apart after talking to president obama last night for 15 minutes and meeting with secretary geithner for more than half an hour. john boehner said the two sides have made no progress on a deal. he wants to see more spending cuts from the democrats, but the democrats punch back and said it is republicans who aren't making any serious offer on more tax revenues. >> so right now all eyes on the white house. the country does not need a victory lap, it needs leadership. tell the american people with spending cuts they are willing to make. >> if it happened, it will be under the leadership of the house. for a balanced agreement, we need republicans to come forward with something. >> speaker john boehner said this is a moment for adult leadership, a stab at the president there. melissa: my goodness. i understand mitt romney is coming to the white house for that lunch. i don't know, what is everybody expect to come from that? >> the president said the preside
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much indeed. >> the so the president has made it very, very clear, drawn a line, no fiscal cliff deal without higher tax rates for the highest earningers, tax rates have got to go up. question, what will speaker boehner have to say about that? his reaction will be new at ten this morning. mark stein is going to be here as well and he'll join us to explore that and more. we have an oil and mining deal to tell, but. freeport mcmoran and copper and gold will have exploration and two separate deals for 9 billion in cash and stock. i'm not quite sure what all of that means. just tell me the stock price, nicole. >> it means big moves for these two stocks here. freeport mcmoran is now down over 15%, but when you look at plains exploration and production, a big mover to the upside and that's up 23. stuart: i'm trying to get this. freeport mcmoran, they're the ones that are doing the buying and plains exploration are the people who are being bought. so the people who are being bought go up because they're paying a high price and the people who are paying the money out are going down. have i go
the fiscal cliff. the president says no deal without raising taxes on the rich. melissa: the nations largest seaport complex at a near standstill for the eighth straight day. drake christopher is going to join us with how this could impact your holiday season. lori: i was just kidding, actually. bacon is kosher. i do not eat kosher. melissa: speaking of kosher -- lori: rubbing elbows with the royals. our next ambassador -- you are speechless. melissa: i do not know about that one. time for stocks now as we do every 15 minutes. nicole petallides is standing by. nicole: right now, we are seeing the dow jones industrial average down just 12 points. so far, we are having a losing week on wall street. let's see what happens at the end of the day. these moves are really fractional. the s&p down a third of a percent. december, traditionally, is the best month for the s&p 500 since 1950. we will see whether or not that seems to come to correlation. i want to take a look at some of the auto retailers. it turns out they are not doing so well with their sales. pat boys, in particular, revenue missing f
again but willing to move forward in good faith to reach a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> there's a stalemate. let's not kid ourselves. i'm not trying to make this more difficult but if you watched me over the last three weeks i've been very guarded what i have to say. i don't want to make it harder for me or the president or members of both parties to be able to find common ground. >> as you recall the president put down his marker yesterday. repeats his demand for 1.6 trillion in new taxes next 10 years, families making more than $250,000 a year. it pays for that with 400 billion in entitlement savings. wants to extend payroll tax cut for one year. that includes 1100 billion including 50 billion in new infrastructure spending. the president hitting the road taking a his pitch to a toy company in pennsylvania just ahead of the holiday shopping season. >> this is not some run-of-the-mill debate. this isn't about which political party can come out on top in negotiations and all of us will have to get out of our comfort zones to make that happen. i'm willing to do that. i'm hopefu
it gets dicey when that date is prior to the deadline for a fiscal cliff and a deal may not be reached by that deadline. >> very true. i look at whole foods. will that be damage? here's a stock creeping up. some people didn't like the last quarter. i thought the last quarter was fine. a great long-term trend. i think that there's a special dividend and, hello -- >> you're going to buy that because of special dividend? i don't know. >> i don't want to change my find about a stock that i don't like because they're paying a dividend. >> for a stock like apple which has been on the list floating at parlor games with a lot of cash on hand, if they paid a special dividend, that may entice shareholders to come back into the stock, a stock that's had trouble breaking out of a trading range it's been in for the last couple weeks. >> totally agree with you. they did have a board meeting last week. i thought something would have come out then. that would have been a good opportunity. as to what carl is saying, everyone wakes up saying we've been running the company wrong. they want to take advant
at a deal to deal with the fiscal cliff? rand paul is defending the northwest pledge not to raise taxes. but the rim rally months on, this time black berberry is on rise. nobody said an inkjet had to be slow. or that printing in color had to cost a fortune. nobody said an all-in-one had to be bulky. or that you had to print from your desk. at least, nobody said it to us. introducing the business smart inkjet all-in-one series from brother. easy to use. it's the ultimate combination of speed, small size, and low-cost printing. >>> go ahead man citing a variety of benefits for the january introduction of the blackberry operating system. dare i say, this is march of the penguins. >> yeah, it is, we have seen the stock which you know we have reported on many times, heavily shorted. a lot of this move has been short covering. suddenly they're saying maybe there's more value than the intellectual property. in gold man's case, they're saying now it has a $3 billion value. previously theirest mate was just cash and ip. now you have $3 billion because you think blackberry is going to do well. >>
cliff deal. jeff flock live in woodstock, ill. with the details. jeff: we talk so much about the fiscal cliff we have forgotten that a farm bill is not getting done either and not only has it not gotten done but the old farm bill expired. a dairy cooperative in michigan, because we don't have a farm bill, what could happen in the next week to month? we ritter back to the old farm bill of 1949. >> we referred to the permanent law 1949 and january 1st which could mean a double crisis for the consumer and double crisis for the producer. >> of a great thing. the government by law would have to pay terms of the 49 law which would double the price of the milk the cows put out. it is crazy. >> it is. definitely. it is not good for anybody, the consumer or the producer. >> take a look at milk prices, trending down lately if we look at them, corn prices have stayed high. you already had enough trouble down on the farm. you can't get this done also with the senate passing a bipartisan farm bill house has passed a bill, they're not that far apart. >> it seems to be a no-brainer to me. it is a much
to get a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. senate majority leader harry reid just took the floor. he tried to get a vote on the fiscal cliff deal at 1:30, but minority leader mitch mcconnell, republican objected to that proposal saying i matter of such importance, 60 vote threshold, majority was born to do. now it will not happen, no vote today on the debt ceiling, fiscal cliff proposal to basically the breaking news is we're back where we started. melissa: what is the hottest stock on wall street these days. trading under. the bidding war for my favorite bank analyst. i love dick bove. speaker he is in purgatory. a billion dollars unauthorized trade was described as a rogue trader. presumption of innocence, he was arrested earlier in the week. take the firm, the firm has been closed down since then. dick bove has been in purgatory. sources are telling us bove reseed essentially 17 offers to join him, he is now down to five, he has contracted form in five firms. he believes he'll be making the decision on which of these five firms he will go to in the coming days. he says he is close to a
francis. lori: i am lori rothman. the president saying we can get a fiscal cliff deal done in one week but wall street not so sure. recession warning coming up.
now than there was six months ago, how does that work? there was no fiscal cliff deal six months from now and still no deal. so i'm not sure why we think there's more uncertainty. i would say if you really think about it the president has a lot of ways to delay the impact. for example, our withholding table don't have to get change order january 1. even if you haven't struck a deal, you don't adjust the withholding tables. for now you can delay the pain. so there is wiggle room in terms of when the impact has to be felt. >> but is there where wiggle rom the investing world who looks at the united states and says these guys are a bunch of keystone cops. this cost us with the last round of negotiations back in the summer of 2011 when the debt rating agencies said if you can't find some civil way to talk to each other, we're going to cut your rating. >> it was nice seeing the ratings agencies make a comments on u.s. democracy. that was helpful. i think, though, is there some deal that can be struck, yes. when does it get done, i think it's probably less important to be better before year
lawmakers don't get it together soon. president obama saying now a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff could be about a week away. there is just one catch. he says republicans have to accept the, quote: reality as he puts it that tax rates are going up for the richest americans. something g.o.p. leaders are calling a deal breaker. >> we're not insisting on rates just out of spite or out of any kind of partisan bickering. but rather because we need to raise a certain amount of revenue. we can probably solve this. it's not that tough. but we need that conceptual break through that says we need to do a balanced plan. >> we made a good faith offer to avert the fiscal crisis and that offer included significant spending cuts reforms and it included additional revenue. and frankly, it was a balanced approach mr. president has been asking for. now we need a response from the white house. >> they have 27 days to prevent automatic tax hikes and spending cuts from kicking in on new year's day. ed henry live at the white house for us. ed, we are hearing the president and house speaker john boehne
cliff deal just might be in the works. we'll see. another positive sign for the economy, the broadest picture we can get of the economy's health, gdp, came in quite a bit better than expected in the third quarter. alison kosik at the new york stock exchange to explain. hi. >> reporter: hey, carol. so between july and september, the economy grew at a 2.7% rate. so that came in much better than second quarter's rate, which was 1.3%. and there's definitely good stuff here. you look deeper in the report, you find out the u.s. exported more than first thought. that's good. because we really need people in other countries to buy our stuff. that helps our economy. home building and strong corporate profits, that also helped our economy. but here's the thing. when you dig deeper in the report, past that headline number of 2.7%, you know, it's not all it's cracked up to be. businesses built up bigger inventories of their products last quarter. that helps the economy now, but the thing is, it means next quarter these businesses may not buy as much. also, this increase in inventory may be becaus
with the fiscal cliff. this deal will only get done by president obama and john boehner making a deal. they came close in the summer of 2011. the parties are so polarized and partisans polarized this is a problem. >> i keep saying we need a presidential historian or hostage negotiator. somebody could say we've been at stalemates before, gotten over it, shut down the government in '96. tip o'neill and ronald reagan managed to solve problems and get along. listen to what john mccain said about what we need here. >> it's time now to sit across the table from one another, rather than -- in the way they did with ronald reagan and the way you get things done in washington. >> the way they did with ronald reagan and get things done in washington. you sit together and figure it out. they were at a holiday party they didn't talk to each other. they're issuing sort of statements and rebuttals and saying i'm not going to budge. >> negotiation by press release. this is not how things get done in washington and part of the problem of the growing incivility in washington. people don't work together the way th
agreement on one thing. they are nowhere near a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. peter doocy is life in washington with more. >> republicans have had their proposal to avoid the fiscal cliff complete with 800 billion of new revenue over a decade on the table for more than a day now. it has yet to be publicly embraced by the slightest bit by any prominent democrats. because of that gop lawmakers are saying that means the white house wants to go over the fiscal cliff to make it a point. >> howard dean said it patti murray who ran the senator ideal committee. i think the presidency is a political victory for his party as they go over the cliff. i know republicans are concerned there is going to be a secondary session. >> the white house proposal raises taxes 1.6 trillion over a decade. republicans close loopholes and get rid of deductions. they say the mast won't work. >>> it is still out of balance. it is 800 million worth of revenues. he said he is going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the map it doesn't work. >> the house majority with kevin mccarthy said yeste
street. the market interpreted positive statements on a potential deal on the fiscal cliff by house speaker and rebounded from what had been a 112-point slide after the morning's opening bell. the dow jones industrials reversed, as i said, on the speaker's positive remarks and finished the session up 107 points. s&p up 11, nasdaq gained 24. all ten s&p 500 sectors moved higher on the day. that is the first time it has happened since october 4th. retailers drove the consumer discretionary sector energy industrials lead in the wake, and the rally started just minutes before house speaker made it clear that republicans are willing to deal on revenue and ready to find a resolution now >> we all know that we have had this spending crisis coming at like a eight train. it mst be dealt with. and in order to try to come to an agreement, republicans are willing to put revenue on the table, but it is time for the president and democrats to get serious about the spending problem that our country has. i am optimistic that we can continue to work together to avert this crisis sooner rather than l
on spending cuts within the budget plan to be included in the fiscal cliff talks. >> can you also look in the camera and say dear democrats, both for and include some of the spending cuts in this deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. because that's not what they're doing right now. should they include this? >> yes, and i know that democrats except that this has to be a balanced package that includes revenues and cuts and spending cuts. >> yet months ago, that ws voted down 99 to zero. earlier this week, the number two democrat in the senate, dick durbin, insisted maj spending cuts and entitlement reform will not be part of these talks. nancy pelosi has been noncommittal about whether cuts will be in the deal. still, they are trying to breathe into the talks with vice present biden shopping avenue costco in washington, picking up a big-screen tv and an apple pie and insisting he is optimistic of the deal. >> i am. all these folks in the store. they are ing to make a difference. reporter: a phone call last night betwee speaker boehner and the president was very curt. it signaled that the presi
already rejected deal to solve the fiscal cliff. he will be traveling to pennsylvania to push his pitch for tax increases on the wealthy. republicans say the campaign-style tactics are getting in the way of productive talks. more companies are announcing special dividends in anticipation of higher tax rates after the new year. whole foods announced a $2 a share special dividend. also declaring one-time payouts, regal entertainment ends on pharmaceuticals and intel labs among other companies. >>> the german parliament has given its approval to the greek debt deal approved by european finance ministers earlier this week. that means that greece can receive about $57 billion in rescue loans. >>>. >> our guest host today is with us trying to rise above and fix the debt. larry, former chairman and ceo of honeywell. one of our favorite guest hosts. you come about once every quarter, larry. >> i do. >> once a quarter. and -- i don't know. last quarter was -- seems like 10, 15 years ago at this point. doesn't it? >> it does to you. to me it is about right. >> with everything that we have been th
rally here. again, the market is demonstrated that it believes a deal on the fiscal cliff is coming. i know. i didn't hear it over the weekend. headline risk was all anybody wanted to talk about on friday. if anybody says that a deal is not happening or it's going nowhere, we could wake up down 15 points on the s&p on monday. guess what? boehner said the deal is going nowhere. now, when i call the bulls on this, they say, bob, they didn't say a deal was off. they just said so far the negotiations are going nowhere. the market still believes that a deal is coming and it's going to be a substantive deal. instead and by the way, geithner insisted on tax rates issues. looks like there may be something happening eventually. we didn't fall apart on the whole thing. even futures weren't down overnight. instead we rally on a little bit overnight on the greek deal and for those that don't know and this is arcane depending on what kind of bonds you're talking about, the bonds that they are offering are priced well above what anybody was expecting. that's one of the reasons that greece is moving
: the fiscal cliff is looking more and more like a ticking time bomb. with 28 days left to strike a deal and no sign of a compromise between democrats and republicans, rich edson looking at his watch counting down those days. he is at the white house. rich? >> ashley more of a sign of trouble as the administration finally acknowledge it is will have it do planning just in case of the beginning of these trillion dollars worth of automatic cuts begins in january. the pentagon saying it will start doing short-term planning. before this the pentagon was doing no planning for automatic cuts that begin. the pentagon says it hasn't communicated to defense contractors yet about what to expect. all the folks here say they're just hoping congress and the white house get on the page on some debt deal. what is it comes to the debt deal the president speaking to the business roundtable a couple hours ago saying tax rates must go up on families earning more than $250,000 a year. republicans say they will take $800 billion in more tax revenue from wealthier americans only through closing deductions. th
and urging them to get an agreement on that fiscal cliff. an expert lesson on the art of getting the deal done. >>> plus, wake up and smell the coffee, a bullish call today on dunkin' brands and other players. we have the smartest flies cav nate your portfolio, when we come back. when we got married. i had three kids. and she became the full time mother of three. it was soccer, and ballet, and cheerleading, and baseball. those years were crazy. so, as we go into this next phase, you know, a big part of it for us is that there isn't anything on the schedule. >>> people becoming more conservative and i think that had an impact in had the growth in '13 all things being equal and in danger if this thing stringings out into '13 start to have problem what is '14 would look like. >> that was bank of america ceo brian moynihan speaking exclusively with our becky quick on the impact of the fiscal cliff, repercussion does go well into 2014 inside now from one of the best known negotiation experts around, harvard business school professor deepak ma hallow and author of "i moved your cheese" and geni
and house speaker boehner are talking, but there is still no word of progress on the so-called fiscal cliff or the president's ultimatum. silence indicate a deal in the works or something too ugly for them to contemplate?@ we'll have the latest for you from the white house. white house correspondent ed henry here in just moments, but, first, the money line in hoping washington might get a deal done driving a modestly bullish mood on wall street at the end of the session. investors cheering news in a decline in jobless claims, and household wealth in the country grew by $1.7 trillion, to the highest level in five years, talk about a positive indicator for consumer purchasing. the dow jones industrial up 40 points, the s&p up five, and nasdaq rose 15.5 points. volume? a billion shares lighter than yesterday, but above the average of 3.1 billion trading on the board today. apple rebounded from yesterday's worst date performance in four years, a gain of $8.45 today with the ceo saying apple will move imac computer production to the country in the new year. garmin stock higher to replace rr donl
progressive democrats are going to get. if the fiscal cliff and the deal and what happens if we go off of the cliff. it really is a dnplatform. higher taxs and defense spending and isn't that what their platform said. they want to go off of the fiscal cliff. then negotiations fail president obama will not get blamed. it is someone else. >> gretchen: marjorie that sounds right other than the middle class getting hit with a tax hike isn't everything that ron just part of the dnc. >> it is it a big issue. president obama and really american people don't want to see middle class americans pay additional 2000 in taxes n which is what will happen in addition to cuts to programs . we want to cut and the american people want to see cut. there is it a few things. first more americans would blame the republicans and not president obama if we went off of the fiscal cliff. that is a motivation. >> brian: yeah. >> gretchen: ron, why do they feel that way? >> brian:ip totally agree with you. looking at polls and say republicans will get blamed and so why not runuss off of the cliff. >> republicans s
this fiscal cliff. and 2000 miles apart and don't expect a great deal of heady volume trading today. it's not going to happen unless there's a headline on the fiscal cliff that jolts everybody back to the trading floor. we're open and running and the dow industrials are running higher in the first 15 seconds. now this, larry ellison, top guy at oracle a check for 200 million before the end of the year because oracle is paying a big dividend this year. by taking the money now, ellison actually saves 56 million bucks. 56 million the treasury will not be getting. so, nicole, the stock price, please. >> well, the stock is slightly lower, but it's just such a statement by all of these companies, not only oracle, but all of these companies quickly accelerating dividends in order-- these payouts in order to beat the fiscal cliff and keep the shareholders happy and in turn, some of these leaders of the companies like larry ellison, as you noted. getting 200 million dollars. so, this will be his payout and what's interesting though, he wasn't involved in the vote because he owns 1.1 billion shar
to avoid a fiscal cliff. to your point, you recently said, even if we reach a deal, the economy is still at series risk of a recession. >> that is right. we are looking at and economy that is very weak. growth was very disappointed. less than 2% real gdp growth in 2012. we will be struggling to achieve that next year, even without hitting the economy with more fiscal bad news. if we go over the cliff, it is really a major downturn. uncertainty remains about what is coming next. put that all together and we could certainly be put on the edge of a recession. lori: that manufacturing number coming in the low 50s, singling contraction. is that the first signal that this economy really is in trouble? >> certainly not the first signal. household earnings down. real disposable personal income has not increased since may. we are really looking at an economy that is weak. ooly thing keeping keeping consumer spending going is that households have been prepared to cut back on their savings rate to such a low level that i do not think there is more room or that in 2013. lori: there are bright spots
of the deal to head off -- to stop us from going off the fiscal cliff. they said by the way we need to raise the debt limit and this new proposal of eliminating congress from the process of raising the debt limit. >> senator mcconnell has offered to have an up or down vote on this and democrats haven't taken him up on it. all of the spending reductions that simon cited in the 1990s were tied to the debt limit increase. it gives republicans leverage. president obama has the leverage in the fiscal cliff fight. he's willing to let the tax go up on the middle class. on the debt increase he doesn't have the same leverage. bob woodward pointed out that tim geithner said to president obama if the republicans stick to their guns on the debt limit bill you cannot reto it. the consequences will be so clam to us that you cannot veto it. so obama would have capitulated. megyn: that's what simon is saying now. that we shouldn't put the country in that position. >> the only way we'll get action on this debt. we keep spending and spending and raising our debt by $6 trillion every obama term. that's what ca
on this fiscal cliff which has automatic tax hikes and spending cuts as of january one, they are trying to avert that. he says any deal on this must include an end to the debt ceiling all together. he wants complete power to raise the country's limit by himself. he doesn't want to have to get congressional approval. that is a demand stirring strong response from republicans today. >> the on way we ever cut spending is by using the debate over the debt limit to do it. now the president wants to remove that spur to cut all together. of course, it gets in the way of his spending plans. i can assure you it one happen. the american people want washington to get spending under control and the debt limit is the best tool we have to make the president take that demand seriously. the american people want us to fight to cut spending. it's a fight they deserve and a fight we are happy to have. >> joining me now, simon rosenberg. and mark theisen. guys, welcome. simon, let me start with you on this. we did have some democrats come on the show and say no, the president doesn't get to just decide when to rais
the fiscal cliff than not to have a rise in tax rates, and he said, quooe, "no deal is better than a bad deal," and a bad deal for him is not letting tax rates go up. what do you think of that? he's one of your own. >> well, unfortunately, we've got too much partisanship in washington, d.c.. the american people want the leaders, both the president and the congress to come together, make the tough decisions. it's going to take both. it's going to take the revenue, but it's also going to take fundamental reform of spending. you cannot spend a billion dollars more than you take in every year or there's fiscal ruin, and with the amount of baby boomers retiring over the next several years, they are going to have to deal with things like medicare, medicaid, and social security if we're going to resolve this thing for the long term, and, frankly, iowa farmers and small businesses will be hit with huge increases in capital gains and death taxes, a real damaging blow to our state, which is doing well. liz: let's talk about the double whammy you face, and you're only one of six states where it's an int
on optimism around the idea that we could reach some sort of a deal to overt the fiscal cliff. the dow closing more than 100 points higher after being down by more than that during the session. a swing like that hasn't happened since october 2011. u.s. equity futures at this hour actually higher. up by about 65 for the dow, s&p more than 7, and as joe mentioned, the fiscal cliff is still the focus. today treasury secretary tim geithner will be meeting with congressional leaders. first harry reid at about 10:00 and then followed by a session with john boehner, eric cantor, paul ryan and chairman of the house's tax writing ways and means committee dave camp. also lunch with republican senate minority leader mitch mcconnell and nancy pelosi. yesterday a number of high profile corporate leaders met with president obama at the white house, including lloyd blankfein. >> both sides have acknowledge there had is revenue concessions and entitlement concessions. in fact if you listen to it, again, i'm not a master of the political art here, but i would say if you have these point of views in a business
'll collect laterr. working on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. who pays the price if congress fails to act. is it a make or make term? reverend did you like the president's tone yesterday if the goal was to come to a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff? >> i think his tone was appropriate because it is even and not an taganistic and fair and balanced in its aproachh and invitesorths to come to the table and indicates a willingness to have a give and take. that's what the american people expect. >> brian: when he said to go visit a manufacturing plant with tinker toys and have a twitter address and hash my 2 k to put pressure on republicans. is that a right tone to get something done? >> i think it is not the president versus republicans. i think the president want to stay close to the american people so that when he goes in the roomm he goes in as the winner of the last election where the majority of the americans made a choice and reminds americans that he has a authority to cut a deal. >> brian: if you find out a deal is cut and no entitlement reform would you think it was successful? >> no.
the biggest impact. he wants to see not just a solution to the fiscal cliff but a deal that addresses problems that go well beyond the january 1st deadline for the sequester. >> i think that if this doesn't move forward with a solution to actually start to lay out ground work to solve long-term issues, it could be disappointing even if it is fixed. >> we have talked to ceos that say they have to go to boards and lay out plans for what they're planning on doing in january and they have to move forward with the plan that has an assumption we don't get a solution. do you hear that from your clients? >> absolutely. i think it's not january. they were forming these plans in august and september. even leading up to that people becoming more conservative. that's had an impact on the growth in '13 all things being equal and i think we're in danger if this thing strings out into '13, you could have problems of what '14 would look like. they make the budget in half a year. the decisions are should i add new equipment? what would final demand be? all of that is done for corporate america for '13. you are
. >> republicans offered a plan to avoid the fiscal cliff through significant spending cuts. >> we put revenue on the table as long as it's accompanied serious spending cuts to avert the crisis. >> the bipartisan bowl deficit plan had savings worth pursuing. >> they identified $1.1 trillion tax expenditures, benefits, deductions, credits and the like that could be cut as part of a grand bargain. i think we ought to look at that flat ten the code simplify it. >> harry reid told reporters yesterday he would like to get credit for what congress has previously cut. >> we have already done more than a billion dollars worth of cuts. >> the top democrat in the house took a similar approach. >> it is important to know that we have already agreed to over a trillion and a half dollars in cuts at both budget control and others in this session of congress. so now we are looking to see if we can do that. >> though asked what she would be willing to slash as part of this deal rank and file house members say they realize more must be done now. >> we get a senfolks making a mn dollars a year maybe they aren't
to the fiscal cliff and not one iota closer to a deal to avoid it. now, on january 1st, four weeks from today, automatic tax hikes and spending cuts kick in with potentially serious consequences for virtually every taxpayer in america. there has been zero progress on a deal, zero. keeping them honest though, the american people clearly want some sort of a compromise. polls show they want results but the two sides are still far apart on the issue at the heart of the debate, whether the wealthiest americans should pay more taxes than they do right now. the people you elected to get things done simply are not getting it done, not even close. but maybe we should not be surprised, because in a cnn/orc poll taken a few weeks ago, 67% said washington officials would behave like spoiled children in fiscal cliff discussions. only 28% said they would behave like responsible adults. with that in mind, here's what the key players, the grownups, have said in just the past 24 hours. listen. >> the math, it doesn't work. >> his proposal was so outlandish, i don't think we should go back to the table until h
at the beginning of the year, regardless of whether or not a deal is reached on the so-called fiscal cliff. stuart varney has got the bad news and it's in small print of the health care reform. >> it is. under obamacare. everybody is looking at the fiscal cliff, tax the rich more for the fiscal. okay. we've got that. but we are definitely going to tax the rich just a little bit more come january 1 to pay for obamacare, specifically taxes on capital gains, dividends going up to just a little bit more, just a little bit more on january 1, and also a little bit more on income of those people making more than $200,000 a year. so we have defined rich down to $200,000 a year. it was a lot higher than that, but guaranteed january 1, a little bit more for obamacare. >> steve: when you say a little bit more, you mean like 3 or 4%, which adds up. >> it does. it's 3.8% extra as a capital gains tax. >> steve: that's a done deal. that's baked into the health care reform? >> that's it. there is no discussion about it. that was passed two years ago. this is going to happen. then you've got maybe a little bit mor
: lawmakers now have exactly one month to strike a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. tax hikes affecting nearly all americans and across the board spending cuts set to kick in at the end of the year. so far both republicans and democrats are digging in on their demands and neither is putting forth a plan. >> i'm willing to move forward in good faith. our original framework still stands. instead of raising tax rates, we can produce similar amount of revenue reforming the tax code to close loopholes and lower tax rates. that's far better for the economy. >> the clock is ticking. the year is ending. it's really important with tax legislation for it to happen now. we're calling upon the republican leadership in the house to bring this legislation to the floor next week. >> arthel: let's bring in steve centanni with more. >> as you can see, the two sides are taking strong stands on principle, but aren't really getting any closer to a compromise as we speed toward that fiscal cliff. the president hit the road appearing at a pennsylvania toy factory yesterday and appealing for a balanced approach, inc
to change them. and my only point is, you know, if we had a game, and every time the term fiscal cliff came up people had to donate a dollar to something, you'd be amazed in the course of a week or two how often this has been repeated like a mantra. i compared to a great essay by tom wolf in which people chanted and made noise in order to get their way. i think we ought to recognize this entire fiscal cliff is an artificial invention of washington, created by people in the congress and the presidency, and it can be broken down by them into a series of steps that can be taken without having to be rushed into one gigantic last-minute, little understood, with no hearings, one vote up or down, i think it's a terrible way to govern the united states. >> greta: well, the sequestration deadline is coming up the 1st of january. what people are saying on capitol hill, the president is saying, congress is saying, it may be scary stuff, but if we go over the fiscal cliff that all sorts of things will happen, that there will be another recession, we'll go deeper into our existing one, if we have an exi
about the fiscal cliff when nothing we're doing is coming close to deal with these issues. melissa: we talk about how hard it is to simplify the tax code. our guest before you guys said the same thing. it could be really simple. we could put out three rates for people with absolutely no deductions exceptions. if you're in this group you pay 35% or whatever. make up your number. >> right. melissa: if you're in this group pay 30, and this group pay 25. no exceptions, no deductions that would be one page tax code. what is wrong with that, michael. >> because we live in a complex country with complex country. you don't want people, somebody with $50,000 of emergency medical expenses exactly the same as somebody who doesn't have those things? you want to tree somebody, the fact of the matter is you want to balance between simplicity and targeting. you want to balance between fairness and revenue. you need to make these --. melissa: who dids decides what is fair? get out there and we pick winners and losers we say who's problem is worth taxpayer dollars and who's problem is not the governmen
to avoid the fiscal cliff almost asap. was it because it was a bad deal but his favorite deal could be no deal at all. i feel like i am playing let's make a deal. remember that show? >> steve: meanwhile fascianista and mentor about to get a major promotion from the president? is she qualified to be a u.s. ambassador and run an embassy? we ask you ladies and gentlemenn of the jury. >> brian: she would be best dressed. fired for being a man. bell ringer was silenced because the girls bring in more christmas cash. is that true? "fox and friends" starts right now. ♪ >> steve: welcome aboard, folks. live from studio e. brian has a lot of friend exercise family members that watch the program. call him throughout the program today, because unbeknowns to you. prian cell phone has fallen through a hole of the jacket pocket and stuck in the lining. >> brian: it dropped through the lining and a secret passage. >> gretchen: give me that coat. >> brian: this is how i function. >> gretchen: somebody get scissors . i can feel the calls coming through. >> brian: there we go. hole in the pocket bu
all from going right off that fiscal cliff. the president says he is optimistic that republicans will cut a deal to keep middle class taxes from going up 26 days from now. leaders in the g.o.p. say the president is forgetting about the other part of the deal. the spending cuts. let's get to ed henry live for us tonight. ed, what else did the president have to say today? >> well, shep, there is so much pessimism from the myan calendar and predictions i suppose to predictions congress can't get its act together and get this fiscal mess cleaned up. the president tried to have a different message. he is trying to say he is optimistic and thinks that when everyone has their say here over the next few days they are finally going to get a deal. take a listen. >> i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is good for families like this one and that is good for the american economy. >> now, the president expressing on michelle there. we are told as well that his
house is leveling the republican counteroffer to avert the fiscal cliff. president obama try this and saying there is no deal without tax hikes on the ridge. with more on this, republican congresswoman dianne black of tennessee. welcome to the show. great to have you. i have to ask you about this story that has been breaking this afternoon. apparently the president will meet with what they're calling progressive talk-show hosts. i think this is a lot of talent. it will parade through the white house. the president will sit down with them. are you getting the sense here that maybe the president is meeting with a few too many people? should we jjst get the job on the fiscal cliff? >> i could not agree more. i felt very discouraged. the president this been more time campaigning that he did of the beginning of his campaign. we need to have serious negotiations. we need our leaders, and the president was elected by the people. he needs to sit down now and the leader along with our leader, the speaker, and talk seriously about these plans. gerri: small business, big business. the
. that is not a good deal and suggests that more and more democrats are thinking we should go off the fiscal cliff. >> biggest democrat to know about cliff diving is the president. >> that's right. he is the x-factor and the president is not a good negotiator. sometimes it is a shadow play we have been through before. we went through it with the debt ceiling deal . read bob woodward's deal. the president really again has a misunderstanding of compromise is. he thinks he's in power and basically the republicans should give him whatever he wants and his relationship with boehner doesn't leed lead to results. i am afraid we'll have another bad solution just like we did in 2011. >> gretchen: the cliffhanger in the whole thing. there is midterm elections coming up for some congressional democrats and republicans, do they really want to go off the cliff and be up for reelection in 20 months? >> that's right. there is an argument of thought that the president is bluffing. can because most economist and the congressional budget office said the economy will q. into another recession. does the president wan
a deal happening in time to avert this fiscal cliff. some say it's for political reasons. what can you tell us? >> it may all be for political reasons. that's no surprise in washington. as you can seen through dealmaking not just on this but things in the past couple of years between the white house and congress, there is almost this rhythm that has evolved. both sides are pointing to the other for an impasse. republicans like senator lindeyy graham just slamming the white house and tim geithner for a plan he laid out on behalf of the administration, laying out about $1.6 trillion in new revenues coupled with only about $400 billion in medicare cuts. listen to what graham said. >> i think we're going over the cliff. it's pretty clear to me they made a political calculation. this offer doesn't remotely deal with entitlement reform in a way to save medicare, medicaid and social security from imminent bankruptcy. the president's plan when it comes to entitlement form is quite frankly a joke. >> so over the weekend the sunday shows, you saw geithner basically drawing a line in the sand. he
. athena jones, live in washington. we'll talk about the prospects for a deal on the fiscal cliff in the next half hour when we're joined by democratic congresswoman sheila jackson lee of texas and republican congressman tim huelskanm. >>> the united nations general assembly voted overwhelmingly yesterday to upgrade the status of the palestinian authority to non-member state. palestinians celebrated this endorsement of the move towards statehood. but the united states and israel strongly opposed the resolution. cnn foreign affairs reporter elise labott is in washington to explain what it all means. why do the u.s. and israel think this is not a good move for -- for palestinians? >> well, christine, i mean, it signals the frustration on the part of the world, and the lack of the peace process. and what the u.s. is saying is that it really doesn't give the palestinians what they want, which is an actual state. it doesn't give them borders. it doesn't give them any sovereignty. and so all of their u.s. argues is going to do is antagonize israel and lead to more frustration if israel
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